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Empty Chamber Carry is strongly opposed by the US private sector training community and the ‘cognoscenti’ of the firearms community. However, carrying with the chamber empty is still a very common practice by large swathes of gun owners. Regardless of opposition to the concept, it is what it is. Some discussion beyond “Don’t Do It” is in order.
This is the first in a series of Fridayfundamentals posts about carrying with an empty chamber. The series is intended neither to advocate nor oppose empty chamber carry but rather to discuss aspects of it not typically examined. A sidenote is that many aspects of the discussion also apply to hammer down carry (Condition Two) with 1911 pistols but that is for another time.
First consider the advocates of carrying with an empty chamber.
- Fairbairn/Sykes in Shooting To Live.
- Israeli military/POlice, although it’s reported that this has relaxed in the past decade.
- Many foreign militaries and POlice forces.
- The US Army until the publication of the May 2017 version of TC 3-23.35 Pistol.
As one commentator noted when the May 2017 TC was published:

Since many people do carry with an empty chamber, let’s work with what we’ve got from the standpoint of instruction.
The single biggest problem with the method is the technique that new gunowners usually employ to load the chamber. The most common technique seen is to hold the pistol in the shooter’s workspace and pull the slide inward toward the body and out of the workspace. Most often the slide is held during the entire operation, retarding the strength of the recoil spring.
This is exactly opposite of what needs to occur. Pulling the slide inward significantly increases the possibility of not fully loading the chamber. This could be a disaster. At least one surveillance video shows an armed robber whose pistol didn’t load completely, which led to his demise.
Here’s a graphic from TC 3-23.35 that illustrates the workspace and its relationship to pistol operation.

Both Shooting To Live and the classic Israeli technique advocate holding the pistol in the workspace and then pushing the pistol forward to the outer limit of the workspace. The slide is held in place while the pistol is pushed outward.
Here’s a series of updated sketches from Chapter 3 of the edited and annotated edition of Shooting To Live that I will be publishing this year. A number of the original Shooting To Live sketches had to be redone due to finger in the trigger guard violations.



Similarly, the classical Israeli technique is to hold the pistol parallel to the ground in the workspace. The slide is held stationary and the pistol is pushed forward toward the enemy and fired.
Note that both Shooting To Live and classic Israeli use the slingshot method of grasping the slide rather than hand over the top of the slide.
The discussions of Empty Chamber Carry rarely include any commentary about what to do after the pistol is loaded, regardless of whether it is fired or not. One of the few comments ever seen was “If I don’t have to shoot, I’ll immediately download the chamber when I get back to my car.” Downloading or unloading afterward is an important enough topic for Shooting To Live to include it as part of the initial 30 round Recruit Training Program. Chapter IV states:
“In all practices at surprise targets, opportunity must be found for the performance of two very essential operations. In order of importance, these are:—
1. Making safe after firing only a portion of the contents of the magazine.
2. Inserting a second magazine after totally expending the contents of the first and continuing to fire without delay.
In the first instance, after firing one or two shots from a fully charged magazine, the instructor should give the order to cease fire. The shooter should then come to the ‘ready,’ remove the magazine, eject the live round from the breech, work the slide back and forth several times and finally pull the trigger, all as described [in] (Figs. 9 and 10).”
Note the order of importance Shooting To Live placed on unloading and reloading. Making the pistol safe after an incident was considered of greater importance than reloading during an incident. It’s probable to assume this priority came from their observation of hundreds of gunfights. Concerns and technique for After Contact actions will be covered in the next post.
Empty chamber is best for suicide. Giving the shooter extra time to reconsider.
Thank you. This is an excellent succinct valuab
Given the number of actions required to be properly accomplished BEFORE rounds may be discharged in defense of ones self AND the number of steps required to return to the “safe” state of carry in a highly charged environment,….does it not make sense to eliminate 85+% of these actions? Fewer acts needed to be accomplished CORRECTLY to send rounds downrange in self defense equals shorter time needed to accomolish that goal which may also equate with successful defense of ones life. I see NO legitimate defense of empty chamber carry for the armed citizen.
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I think it is important to look deeper “why” the US Army (pre-2017), the IDF, and others included empty carry. The vast majority of pistol carriers in those organizations are “pistol carriers” not “pistol fighters.” And they are generally on the belt because carrying a full size carbine would prevent them from doing their real job.
Sometimes that real job is “IT support”, “radio operator” or “intelligence analyst.” Sometimes that involves crawling through tight places with a government issued holster to run communication cables or you are carrying so much other equipment that a carbine doesn’t make sense.
And that is a fundamentally different position to be in than “American citizen” or “undercover cop” where the purpose of carrying is to immediately deal with a violent threat. The tactical context for that is likely alone, not part of a team, and (common training assumption here) very few pre-attack indicators.
But since a lot of people come out of the military (American, Israeli, etc) where they get used to operating in that context, quite literally carrying with an empty chamber in active war zones where they didn’t “choose suicide by empty chamber carry” they’ll have less hesitancy to carry on an empty chamber as a citizen. And quite frankly I’m fine with that, as they aren’t infringing on anyone else’s carry rights, even if they haven’t fully internalized that their operational context has changed.
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Empty carry is to prevent ND during carry and manipulation of pistol out of holster. One can point to 1 or maybe 2 cases of that time being critical. However I can post video after video of ND during training and actual deployment of the weapon in real world. What’s more likely to occur an quick draw situation or a ND with handling a loaded weapon in and out of holster?
I carry one in the spout. I Mitigate the risk by what I carry. J Frame or HK PSP P7. Or 365XL with manual safety. Its all about mitigating risks. And Putting the risk in perspective of what is actually more likely.