Duel at the Dumbster (Part VII)

“Hey Claude what are your thoughts on the dad getting convicted and the son getting acquitted in the ‘Duel at the Dumpster’ Trial?”


The “Duel at the Dumbster” saga has finally concluded after almost five years. For those unfamiliar with the incident, it started as the 2018 killing of a man in an Abilene, Texas alley over the disposal of a mattress. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tasneemnashrulla/father-son-texas-shooting-neighbor-trash-video The elder shooter will now spend the rest of his life in prison but his son will go free, except for the debts he owes to his lawyers.

As a friend of mine commented:

“We aren’t supposed to kill each other over who is king of the landfill until *after* society collapses.”

My thoughts about it are remembrances of what other knowledgeable people have said about personal protection in general. This incident shows the wisdom of their words.

“Any time you go into court, there is a greater than zero chance you will be convicted.”

–Andrew Branca Law of Self Defense

“Stupid people, stupid places, doing stupid things. Avoid them and you’ll probably be alright.” and “The best way to win a gunfight is to not be there.”

–John Farnam https://defense-training.com/

“Forget Stand Your Ground.” and “Don’t Go Outside.”

–Steve Harris http://modernserviceweapons.com/?author=12

“The process is the punishment.”

–John Murphy https://www.fpftraining.com/

Note that their combined bond was $500,000, which means they had to give a bondsman at least $50,000 to get out of jail. They don’t get that back, it’s the bondsman’s fee for posting their bail.

Also, assume that in any confrontation you will be on video, most likely from the perspective least favorable to you. The framing of the story in the media will also be as unfavorable to you as can possibly be made. The picture of the participants in the Buzzfeed story is a good example. Both the shooters are portrayed as shirtless toothless gun-armed rednecks. The shootee is portrayed as a happy smiling person, not the hulking angry foul-mouthed behemoth with “Intermittent Explosive Disorder” holding a baseball bat that the video shows.

There are so many lessons to be drawn from the incident that I wrote a series of articles about it.




The year after the Duel, I made a visit to the site as part of my trip to the SHOT Show.

Visit to the Site of the Duel (Part IV of the series)


Visit (continued) to the Site of the Duel (Part V of the series)


This is a quote from The Godfather that is worth repeating.

“There are men in this world,” [Don Corleone] said, “who go about demanding to be killed. You must have noticed them. They quarrel in gambling games, they jump out of their automobiles in a rage if someone so much as scratches their fender, they humiliate and bully people whose capabilities they do not know. I have seen a man, a fool, deliberately infuriate a group of dangerous men, and he himself without any resources. These are people who wander through the world shouting, ‘Kill me. Kill me.’ And there is always somebody ready to oblige them.”

That doesn’t mean there won’t be consequences for such a killing, as the Duel at the Dumbster demonstrates. In The Godfather Sollozzo noted:

“Blood is a big expense.”

3 responses

  1. jchapman@timevarsys.com

    Thank you for the pithy quotes and reminders to avoid. Best, Jamie Chapman

  2. Sooooo much truth in one post!
    Thank you.
    BTW, I will be reading this in its entirety in the CCW class I am teaching Saturday.

  3. Under traditional circumstances (before Agenda 21) filling a dumpster with a mattress would not be a serious problem, although possibly annoying to other dumpster users. Now however, Agenda 21 calls for the ‘removal’ of about 8 billion humans for “Sustainable Development” to save the earth. So every removed human is an achievement, however small. [Sustainable Development requires Depopulation of Humanity, and is implementable under the Authority of the UN, and has been signed off on by all the world leaders. The Agenda often refers to ‘Humans’. Download the 351 page pdf file at http://www.UN.org ]

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